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  • Thanks Guy and Malcolm for your second posts. I had contingency plans to shorten the route either after Muswell or after Dorton if anyone was struggling. I hadn’t thought about inexperienced newcomers, assuming that the Leisure rides were intended to cater for them.

    Taking up your suggestion of soundings, I propose loading this alternative route and deciding between the two on Sunday depending on who comes: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/27662327

    This route too can be cut short if necessary, either via Kingswood or via Botolph Claydon (after coffee in Quainton). If a novice shows up then we can do a shorter local run, e.g to the Thrift café or Twyford.

    PS I agree with Guy and Dan that climbing Muswell and Brill in particular is more challenging than lots of little hills.

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